Interview With Dr. Buttar Part 3
Part 3
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Dave: You made a couple of great analogies there. I like when you were talking about going into battle. You’ve got the army, the navy, and all the armed forces overseas right now, and they’re making decisions; they’ve got someone leading them. The last thing you want it mutiny amongst your own patients, where you’re trying to lead them to victory and they’re not sure which direction to turn. They have to be ready when they get to you and they have to be willing to act and not react. Too many people react. Very few people know how to act and take full control over their own treatments. Do you agree?
Dr. Buttar: Absolutely without a doubt, in fact, it’s not just in dealing with disease; it’s in everything in life. We look at success versus failure in every component of life, whether it’s personal, financial, family, spiritual/social circles, your health, everything. Very, very few people are proactive. Most people, as you said, are reactive. That’s the problem. When you’re in a reactive mode, you’re not making any progress. I couldn’t agree with what you said more.
Dave: One philosophy I’ve always had in my life is “never, ever worry about something for longer than it actually takes to do it.”
Dr. Buttar: [Laughs] Isn’t that true?
Dave: That’s the problem. Here it is; a lot of people are afraid of needles when they need to go to the doctor and get a shot. The shot could have been over in five seconds and they put themselves in this psychological mess, fearing the doctor or fearing going to the dentist; that’s another thing that a lot of people are afraid of.
Dr. Buttar: You have no idea how important what you’ve just said is to the overall picture of people getting better. That is the essence of pathology, I believe, in our society today. It is that we throw ourselves into a conundrum when there is no need to be in that conundrum. It comes down to, as you said; we are either worrying about what’s going to happen in the future, or we’re worrying about what happened in the past. We need to remember to live in the now.
When you live in the now, something remarkable happens. In fact, two of my favorite quotes come from very high levels of wisdom. One is from Spiderman and one is from Kung Fu Panda. You can tell I have some younger kids. I have a four-year old, a ten-year old, and a sixteen-year old.
The best movies I’ve seen, and I don’t know if you’ve ever watched Kung Fu Panda or Spiderman but let me give you this quote from Kung Fu Panda. This brings the essence of what we’ve been discussing in this last part to the forefront. “Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That’s why we call it the ‘present’.”
Dave: That’s amazing and I have seen the movie and it’s still amazing to hear that. It’s a perfectly elegant way to come to the end of our interview here. We’ve got just a few moments left, and I want to ask you; you had a couple of free videos, four free videos, where you educate people on toxins, and chronic diseases. Where can people see that with their very own eyes?
Dr. Buttar: Actually, it’s nine videos that are free. They’re about twenty minutes long, each. The site is going to be up and ready to go on August 15th of this year, in another two weeks. You can go and watch the first three videos now, if you like, but it’s www.factsontoxicity.com.
The goal behind this project was to create something that can rapidly be disseminated throughout the world so that people are empowered with knowledge. This brings me up to the second quote, from Spiderman, “With great power comes great responsibility.” I believe that as we become empowered, and as we learn the truth, we have a responsibility to pass that information on to those we care about, to those we love, to those we value.
The videos we’ve created to explain these seven toxicities and their relationship to chronic disease, and they’re completely for free. There is no charge for this at all. Our only request is that if people find them to be of value, that they take the time to refer their friends, family, and loved ones to the site.
The first three videos, people find everywhere, but to continue watching past the first three videos, the rest of them are on that site, www.factsontoxicity.com. The first three videos people go through and are just blown away because they start seeing the truth and they understand what this is all about. That’s where they get them, there is no cost to them, and they’re all online.
Dave: That’s fantastic and what was that URL one more time?
Dr. Buttar: www.factsontoxicity.com
Dave: Dr. Buttar, I have to tell you that it’s been a pleasure speaking with you and I want to ask you; did you have any final thoughts, words of hope, and encouragement that you could give to our listeners?
Dr. Buttar: I want you to all remember that, at least from my perspective, the first patient that I lost when I went into private practice – when I say lost I mean that died – was a lady that had breast cancer. She was told that she would never see Thanksgiving again. She was in hospice and she was referred to hospice. When she came to us, it was some time in August. I believe this was in 1997. She was told that she would never see Thanksgiving again.
I said to her, “What do you want?” She said, “I want to see Thanksgiving.” I said, “That’s all you want to see, Thanksgiving?” She said, “I will be happy if I see Thanksgiving.” I said, “Alright, then that’s our goal. If that’s what your goal is, that’s what our goal is.”
Thanksgiving came and went and she did very well. She was now at a point where she felt even better. She said, “I know I’m going to be here until Easter. We went through Christmas, through Easter; everything she wanted to do we did. She was doing better and better. She went on a vacation in Mexico in May of the following year. She came back from Mexico and she got a cough. From the time that she developed this cough to the time, got into the hospital, was put on a respirator, and then she passed was about 48 hours.
I got to the hospital when she was on a respirator and she looked at me with this look of panic because she couldn’t breathe. I was holding her hand and I told her, “It’s going to be okay. Everything’s going to be fine.” She completely relaxed and the only sentiment I can express is she had love in her eyes. When I told her everything is going to be okay, she gave me this look like everything is going to be okay, like she knew everything is going to be okay. She relaxed.
About 8 hours later she died. When I found out she died, it was early in the morning, and I came back to the hospital. I saw her husband in the hallway. He approached me and he hugged me. I hugged him back and I remember saying to him that I was sorry. I just felt like such a failure. I must have said I was sorry three times. He kind of pulled himself away from me and he looked at me with a quizzical look. He said, “What the hell are you talking about, you’re sorry?”
I said, “I’m sorry I wasn’t able to save her.” He said, “You gave her 9 more months of life that nobody else even thought she could have. More importantly than that; those were the best 9 months of my life with my wife. We travelled, we enjoyed. She was able to love and laugh. Don’t you ever say you’re sorry to me, again.”
Up to that point in my life, I used to think that life was success and death was failure. Then I realized, after what this man said to me, and it was a personal point of growth for me when I realized that what I had been thinking of as success and failure wasn’t really what success and failure is about.
The question is; when we’re alive and we’re talking about cancer, many of us go through our life not even realizing what life is about. One of the things that this man said to me was, “I would rather have 9 months of my life with my wife like I’ve just had, then have an eternity with her like we had before. In the last 9 months, we really lived.”
I would want people to remember to live your life like you only have one day left or one week left or one month left. When you live your life like that, whenever the time comes for us to pass onto the next realm – everybody dies. I have a great comment from a dentist who sent me an email. He said, “Don’t take life too seriously. Nobody gets out alive.” We’re all going to die. The question is; have we lived while we’re here?
I would like to point out to the people who may be listening to this; when you hear about cancer, we get this impression that we’ve got this death sentence. It is not a death sentence. Maybe it’s an awakening, or an alert. Maybe God is tapping you on the shoulder and saying, “Get up, wake up, open your eyes, and live your life.”
Many patients that have gone through our treatment, that today are doing very well; they’ve told me that it’s transformed their life completely. It has given them an appreciation for life and they are now truly living their life. Some of them have said that they don’t even remember what their purpose was before, but now they know what their purpose is.
I would encourage you to live your life, those that are listening, to live your life the way you would live it were you to be given some type of end, that you have only a month left or something. You will find that when you live your life like that, live in the moment. Live now because today we have; tomorrow we don’t know what’s going to happen. That’s what life is about. That’s what I believe the Creator wants. If we do everything to always do right by what feels right in our heart, you can’t go wrong.
Cancer is only a symptom. Cancer is only a symptom of a toxic system that doesn’t have the nutrient base that it needs. When a tree dies, the last thing it does before it dies is it goes into a rapid state of pollination. It spreads its seed everywhere. It’s the last thing it does before it dies.
I believe that when somebody gets cancer, at the point where it starts, I believe the cells are so toxic and there is so much of a depletion of the nutrients that are necessary to keep those cells functional, that it’s about to die. It’s not natural for that area to just shut down. It goes into a rapid survival phase. Just as a tree rapidly proliferates and spreads its seed, that is what happens in that area.
Rapid, uncontrolled cellular proliferation, meaning the spreading of cells, is the same thing as a tree. That’s the definition of cancer, uncontrolled, cellular proliferation. If your body, at a certain point, is proliferating to that point of rapid growth, all it’s trying to do is to survive. That’s a symptom and we think this is some bad heinous monster that comes into our body spontaneously. It doesn’t.
I believe it is in response to toxicity and the inability of the system to keep up with the nutrient demands and not getting enough nutrients. If you provide the body with the right balance, that should negate.
We do certain things to go after the cancer, but that’s actually the secondary mode. Our first mode is to detoxify and to improve the immune system, and to give the body the nutrients that it needs. Then, whatever is left over that doesn’t stop and doesn’t go back to its normal state, then we’ll try to go after that.
I used to go after cancer directly. I don’t do that anymore. I actually have taken on this other philosophy and it’s working even better. Many times, the tumor break down from what we were breaking down was so rapid, the person couldn’t deal with it.
I didn’t mention that and I kind of wanted to bring that story full-circle home; when you’re dealing with cancer, and we have this impression we get from the doctors that it’s doom and gloom. Remember, it’s just a symptom. It’s a wakeup call. Live your life the right way and many people have beaten the cancer and many people will continue to beat it. This is where they go into the spontaneous healing. When you ask doctors, “How did this person get better? You gave them 6 months to live and they’re mountain climbing and doing all this stuff.” The doctor says, “It is a miracle. We don’t know how.” It wasn’t from the chemo. It wasn’t from the radiation. They never got the chemo and radiation and they may not have gotten the type of treatments that we do; they just got better.
What was the shift? We don’t know. The last unknown is not outer space. It’s within the body. We are incredible being capable of incredible things. The perfect piece of machinery is the human body. If we were a car and we put the kind of crap we put into our system and we were a car, we’d only run for 2 weeks. Remember that. Take care of your body, do the right thing, and everything else will fall into place.
Dave: That is wonderfully said; focus on the quality of life, not so much the quantity of how much time you have left, but the quality of what you’re going through right now. You’re absolutely right about that.
Dr. Buttar: The strange thing, when you emphasize the quality aspect, the quantity will increase by itself. There is a great story about an industrialist that lived at the turn of the century. The story is in a great book called Beating Cancer by Nutrition, by a friend of mine, Dr. Patrick Quillin. He talks about this guy who was told he had just a few months left to live because he had tuberculosis.
Since he knew he was going to die, he decided he was going to go live out in the west because he loved the west. He loved nature and thought, “I’m going to go
and spend the last couple of years of my life in Yellowstone.” He went there and the first thing he did was carve his own gravestone because he didn’t know whether there would be anybody around to bury him since he was out there in the middle of nowhere by himself.
He came to terms with the end of his own life, and then he had to survive for the couple of more months that he had. He started hunting, gathering berries, and living off the land. That couple of months turned into 6 months, and the 6 months turned into a year and the year into two years, and the two years into five, and five into ten, and ten turned into twenty. He ended up living out there for another forty years, with this terminal condition. You never know what happens because when you focus on that quality of life, and you start living life the right way, strange things happens with the quantity; it just comes.
Dave: I have to tell you, Dr. Buttar, you’ve been fantastic! You’ve been a wealth of information, the true source of expertise. You’ve absolutely over delivered during this interview and I sincerely want to thank you for spending some time today with my listeners me.
Dr. Buttar: I appreciate you asking me to do so.
Dave: It’s been my pleasure. We’ve been speaking with Dr. Rashid Buttar from North Carolina. He’s been giving us a candid look at his own story of survival with his patients. This is Dave Bernstein. I’d like to thank you for joining us, today, and we’ll talk to you soon.
Part 3
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Dave: You made a couple of great analogies there. I like when you were talking about going into battle. You’ve got the army, the navy, and all the armed forces overseas right now, and they’re making decisions; they’ve got someone leading them. The last thing you want it mutiny amongst your own patients, where you’re trying to lead them to victory and they’re not sure which direction to turn. They have to be ready when they get to you and they have to be willing to act and not react. Too many people react. Very few people know how to act and take full control over their own treatments. Do you agree?
Dr. Buttar: Absolutely without a doubt, in fact, it’s not just in dealing with disease; it’s in everything in life. We look at success versus failure in every component of life, whether it’s personal, financial, family, spiritual/social circles, your health, everything. Very, very few people are proactive. Most people, as you said, are reactive. That’s the problem. When you’re in a reactive mode, you’re not making any progress. I couldn’t agree with what you said more.
Dave: One philosophy I’ve always had in my life is “never, ever worry about something for longer than it actually takes to do it.”
Dr. Buttar: [Laughs] Isn’t that true?
Dave: That’s the problem. Here it is; a lot of people are afraid of needles when they need to go to the doctor and get a shot. The shot could have been over in five seconds and they put themselves in this psychological mess, fearing the doctor or fearing going to the dentist; that’s another thing that a lot of people are afraid of.
Dr. Buttar: You have no idea how important what you’ve just said is to the overall picture of people getting better. That is the essence of pathology, I believe, in our society today. It is that we throw ourselves into a conundrum when there is no need to be in that conundrum. It comes down to, as you said; we are either worrying about what’s going to happen in the future, or we’re worrying about what happened in the past. We need to remember to live in the now.
When you live in the now, something remarkable happens. In fact, two of my favorite quotes come from very high levels of wisdom. One is from Spiderman and one is from Kung Fu Panda. You can tell I have some younger kids. I have a four-year old, a ten-year old, and a sixteen-year old.
The best movies I’ve seen, and I don’t know if you’ve ever watched Kung Fu Panda or Spiderman but let me give you this quote from Kung Fu Panda. This brings the essence of what we’ve been discussing in this last part to the forefront. “Yesterday is history. Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is a gift. That’s why we call it the ‘present’.”
Dave: That’s amazing and I have seen the movie and it’s still amazing to hear that. It’s a perfectly elegant way to come to the end of our interview here. We’ve got just a few moments left, and I want to ask you; you had a couple of free videos, four free videos, where you educate people on toxins, and chronic diseases. Where can people see that with their very own eyes?
Dr. Buttar: Actually, it’s nine videos that are free. They’re about twenty minutes long, each. The site is going to be up and ready to go on August 15th of this year, in another two weeks. You can go and watch the first three videos now, if you like, but it’s www.factsontoxicity.com.
The goal behind this project was to create something that can rapidly be disseminated throughout the world so that people are empowered with knowledge. This brings me up to the second quote, from Spiderman, “With great power comes great responsibility.” I believe that as we become empowered, and as we learn the truth, we have a responsibility to pass that information on to those we care about, to those we love, to those we value.
The videos we’ve created to explain these seven toxicities and their relationship to chronic disease, and they’re completely for free. There is no charge for this at all. Our only request is that if people find them to be of value, that they take the time to refer their friends, family, and loved ones to the site.
The first three videos, people find everywhere, but to continue watching past the first three videos, the rest of them are on that site, www.factsontoxicity.com. The first three videos people go through and are just blown away because they start seeing the truth and they understand what this is all about. That’s where they get them, there is no cost to them, and they’re all online.
Dave: That’s fantastic and what was that URL one more time?
Dr. Buttar: www.factsontoxicity.com
Dave: Dr. Buttar, I have to tell you that it’s been a pleasure speaking with you and I want to ask you; did you have any final thoughts, words of hope, and encouragement that you could give to our listeners?
Dr. Buttar: I want you to all remember that, at least from my perspective, the first patient that I lost when I went into private practice – when I say lost I mean that died – was a lady that had breast cancer. She was told that she would never see Thanksgiving again. She was in hospice and she was referred to hospice. When she came to us, it was some time in August. I believe this was in 1997. She was told that she would never see Thanksgiving again.
I said to her, “What do you want?” She said, “I want to see Thanksgiving.” I said, “That’s all you want to see, Thanksgiving?” She said, “I will be happy if I see Thanksgiving.” I said, “Alright, then that’s our goal. If that’s what your goal is, that’s what our goal is.”
Thanksgiving came and went and she did very well. She was now at a point where she felt even better. She said, “I know I’m going to be here until Easter. We went through Christmas, through Easter; everything she wanted to do we did. She was doing better and better. She went on a vacation in Mexico in May of the following year. She came back from Mexico and she got a cough. From the time that she developed this cough to the time, got into the hospital, was put on a respirator, and then she passed was about 48 hours.
I got to the hospital when she was on a respirator and she looked at me with this look of panic because she couldn’t breathe. I was holding her hand and I told her, “It’s going to be okay. Everything’s going to be fine.” She completely relaxed and the only sentiment I can express is she had love in her eyes. When I told her everything is going to be okay, she gave me this look like everything is going to be okay, like she knew everything is going to be okay. She relaxed.
About 8 hours later she died. When I found out she died, it was early in the morning, and I came back to the hospital. I saw her husband in the hallway. He approached me and he hugged me. I hugged him back and I remember saying to him that I was sorry. I just felt like such a failure. I must have said I was sorry three times. He kind of pulled himself away from me and he looked at me with a quizzical look. He said, “What the hell are you talking about, you’re sorry?”
I said, “I’m sorry I wasn’t able to save her.” He said, “You gave her 9 more months of life that nobody else even thought she could have. More importantly than that; those were the best 9 months of my life with my wife. We travelled, we enjoyed. She was able to love and laugh. Don’t you ever say you’re sorry to me, again.”
Up to that point in my life, I used to think that life was success and death was failure. Then I realized, after what this man said to me, and it was a personal point of growth for me when I realized that what I had been thinking of as success and failure wasn’t really what success and failure is about.
The question is; when we’re alive and we’re talking about cancer, many of us go through our life not even realizing what life is about. One of the things that this man said to me was, “I would rather have 9 months of my life with my wife like I’ve just had, then have an eternity with her like we had before. In the last 9 months, we really lived.”
I would want people to remember to live your life like you only have one day left or one week left or one month left. When you live your life like that, whenever the time comes for us to pass onto the next realm – everybody dies. I have a great comment from a dentist who sent me an email. He said, “Don’t take life too seriously. Nobody gets out alive.” We’re all going to die. The question is; have we lived while we’re here?
I would like to point out to the people who may be listening to this; when you hear about cancer, we get this impression that we’ve got this death sentence. It is not a death sentence. Maybe it’s an awakening, or an alert. Maybe God is tapping you on the shoulder and saying, “Get up, wake up, open your eyes, and live your life.”
Many patients that have gone through our treatment, that today are doing very well; they’ve told me that it’s transformed their life completely. It has given them an appreciation for life and they are now truly living their life. Some of them have said that they don’t even remember what their purpose was before, but now they know what their purpose is.
I would encourage you to live your life, those that are listening, to live your life the way you would live it were you to be given some type of end, that you have only a month left or something. You will find that when you live your life like that, live in the moment. Live now because today we have; tomorrow we don’t know what’s going to happen. That’s what life is about. That’s what I believe the Creator wants. If we do everything to always do right by what feels right in our heart, you can’t go wrong.
Cancer is only a symptom. Cancer is only a symptom of a toxic system that doesn’t have the nutrient base that it needs. When a tree dies, the last thing it does before it dies is it goes into a rapid state of pollination. It spreads its seed everywhere. It’s the last thing it does before it dies.
I believe that when somebody gets cancer, at the point where it starts, I believe the cells are so toxic and there is so much of a depletion of the nutrients that are necessary to keep those cells functional, that it’s about to die. It’s not natural for that area to just shut down. It goes into a rapid survival phase. Just as a tree rapidly proliferates and spreads its seed, that is what happens in that area.
Rapid, uncontrolled cellular proliferation, meaning the spreading of cells, is the same thing as a tree. That’s the definition of cancer, uncontrolled, cellular proliferation. If your body, at a certain point, is proliferating to that point of rapid growth, all it’s trying to do is to survive. That’s a symptom and we think this is some bad heinous monster that comes into our body spontaneously. It doesn’t.
I believe it is in response to toxicity and the inability of the system to keep up with the nutrient demands and not getting enough nutrients. If you provide the body with the right balance, that should negate.
We do certain things to go after the cancer, but that’s actually the secondary mode. Our first mode is to detoxify and to improve the immune system, and to give the body the nutrients that it needs. Then, whatever is left over that doesn’t stop and doesn’t go back to its normal state, then we’ll try to go after that.
I used to go after cancer directly. I don’t do that anymore. I actually have taken on this other philosophy and it’s working even better. Many times, the tumor break down from what we were breaking down was so rapid, the person couldn’t deal with it.
I didn’t mention that and I kind of wanted to bring that story full-circle home; when you’re dealing with cancer, and we have this impression we get from the doctors that it’s doom and gloom. Remember, it’s just a symptom. It’s a wakeup call. Live your life the right way and many people have beaten the cancer and many people will continue to beat it. This is where they go into the spontaneous healing. When you ask doctors, “How did this person get better? You gave them 6 months to live and they’re mountain climbing and doing all this stuff.” The doctor says, “It is a miracle. We don’t know how.” It wasn’t from the chemo. It wasn’t from the radiation. They never got the chemo and radiation and they may not have gotten the type of treatments that we do; they just got better.
What was the shift? We don’t know. The last unknown is not outer space. It’s within the body. We are incredible being capable of incredible things. The perfect piece of machinery is the human body. If we were a car and we put the kind of crap we put into our system and we were a car, we’d only run for 2 weeks. Remember that. Take care of your body, do the right thing, and everything else will fall into place.
Dave: That is wonderfully said; focus on the quality of life, not so much the quantity of how much time you have left, but the quality of what you’re going through right now. You’re absolutely right about that.
Dr. Buttar: The strange thing, when you emphasize the quality aspect, the quantity will increase by itself. There is a great story about an industrialist that lived at the turn of the century. The story is in a great book called Beating Cancer by Nutrition, by a friend of mine, Dr. Patrick Quillin. He talks about this guy who was told he had just a few months left to live because he had tuberculosis.
Since he knew he was going to die, he decided he was going to go live out in the west because he loved the west. He loved nature and thought, “I’m going to go
and spend the last couple of years of my life in Yellowstone.” He went there and the first thing he did was carve his own gravestone because he didn’t know whether there would be anybody around to bury him since he was out there in the middle of nowhere by himself.
He came to terms with the end of his own life, and then he had to survive for the couple of more months that he had. He started hunting, gathering berries, and living off the land. That couple of months turned into 6 months, and the 6 months turned into a year and the year into two years, and the two years into five, and five into ten, and ten turned into twenty. He ended up living out there for another forty years, with this terminal condition. You never know what happens because when you focus on that quality of life, and you start living life the right way, strange things happens with the quantity; it just comes.
Dave: I have to tell you, Dr. Buttar, you’ve been fantastic! You’ve been a wealth of information, the true source of expertise. You’ve absolutely over delivered during this interview and I sincerely want to thank you for spending some time today with my listeners me.
Dr. Buttar: I appreciate you asking me to do so.
Dave: It’s been my pleasure. We’ve been speaking with Dr. Rashid Buttar from North Carolina. He’s been giving us a candid look at his own story of survival with his patients. This is Dave Bernstein. I’d like to thank you for joining us, today, and we’ll talk to you soon.
